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  1. 14 likes
    I think that captions finish off the topic and make it look more professional. When this subject has been mentioned previously people have stated that either they haven't got time to add captions or that they don't know or are unsure of the owners of equipment so they don't add captions. I feel that if you have taken time to travel to a fair taken the time to take the photos and then taken even more time to edit and upload the photos it seems a shame that you don't have the time to add captions to finish off the job. As for not knowning who owns what there are two options open to you either check in the Rides or Transport Lists which I agree can be time consuming but there is an easy way and that is to put a question mark under the photo and usually it doesn't take long for someone to post who the subject in the photo is owned by. I also think that where captions are added they should be added under the photo in all case's because there are some posts where the caption is above the photo and others where the caption is under the photo .
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    Dear All We have a superb detailed resource in the Forum Transport List and I am extremely grateful to all those who have contributed to it's success - THANK YOU. However, for a number of reasons, the Transport List is currently a little messy with differing formats. I intend to invest some time and effort bringing the list up to the high standard of the Rides List. This will involve adding all the current photos as replies. The upside of this work will mean that members who supply the photo's will get the deserved credit and the format will be consistent across the Transport list and will be consistent with the Rides list. The downside is that adding the photos as replies will mean they show up to those members who check the forum using the "View New Content" button. I appreciate that this is a minor inconvenience, but is the only way we can bring the list up to the standard of the Rides list. To lessen the inconvenience, the replies will only be added in small batches thereby lessening their impact . This will obviously mean this is a long term project. Unless you would prefer we blitz this - more impact, but over quicker? In any event, it maybe useful to consider how I use the "View New Content" facility? I click "View New Content" and then right click any topic that I am interested in, I then open it in a new tab. When I have all the topics I'm interested in open in new tabs, I click the "Mark Site Read" button - I have my topics to read and the rest are read. Works for me Again, I thank everyone for their continued support. All the best Bill
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    I have aired my views on this topic previously & I still feel that captions with images are important. Firstly I cannot see much point in posting dozens of images from a particular fair or locality without providing some information about the subject matter, bearing in mind a majority of users will not have seen most of the included items or visited a particular fair or location. If any images are submitted for publication in the press particularly the Worlds Fair or one of the enthusiasts magazines it is doubtful they would be used or be paid for without captioned information. The second point concerns archiving where a meaningful description is necessary to assist both the archiving process & future reference. Tens of thousands of images are held at NFA the vast majority having been filed & categorised at the time of capture enabling clear & structured systems to be in place for the benefit of users, researchers, the media etc, Finally I have recently been asked by several showmen why images of their equipment are displayed without any indication or clue as to ownership especially when they may have invested tens of thousands of pounds in acquiring, restoring or updating their equipment. Adding details provides showmen with a 'shop window' for their equipment especially when seeking new grounds or for lessees seeking something fresh for their own presentations. No showman to my knowledge charges a fee for photographing their equipment. I do feel the least we can do to thank them for giving us free rein on their grounds is to acknowledge ownership of their subject matter when posting here & elsewhere.
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    Dear All I believe that your photo submissions are the life blood of this forum and I am extremely grateful to all those who take the time and effort to submit photo topics and photos for the Rides & Transport lists - THANK YOU. We've recently began work on revamping the Transport list and I've noticed that whilst the vast majority of the photos we have are captioned, a small number are not. I would suggest that the location and date the photo was taken are desirable - particularly from a 'Moderator' point of view as it allows us to add your most recent photo to the first, detailed post. In the past we deleted older photos to conserve server space - we now have much more server capacity and are building up a very nice collection of historic photos - which again makes the additional of the location and date more desirable. Captioning of photos in photo topics isn't compulsory, but time and again feedback shows that photo topics with captions are more popular and I would invite members to take the extra time to add captions if they can. If you do caption photo topics, it also helps other members if we all caption in the same place - under the photo. Again, not compulsory, but desirable. It may seem to be unnecessary to caption photos from Theme/Amusement Parks, but now we have historic photos it is more important. It may seem obvious that a ride in a theme park was photographed there - but please consider 5 years down the road when it has moved out of the park and is travelling. Please don't take any of the above as a criticism of those who take the time to submit photos - it isn't! They are my own personal views, what I like to see and what I aim for when submitting photos. I thank you all for your support! All the best Bill
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    Thank you for another well reasoned reply - I agree with everything you say! I agree 100% with this, which is why I voted for desirable and not compulsory. However there are some very good arguments above FOR adding captions That would be better than no captions at all, but in my view not nearly as good as having the captions there under the photos - always assuming there is a report. Following on from a thought above - What would it be like to buy a hard back book with 1000 funfair photos in, but none of them captioned? Or if it came with a separate book with the captions in and you had to look up and cross reference every photo?
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    What is it they say about statistics? I've looked at the stats and concluded that over 80% of our members think they are desirable and/or should be compulsory Another good reason FOR captioning has come to mind today. We've 1880 photo topics over 76 pages going back to 2014. The topics that aren't captioned are NOT searchable and I would suggest won't get looked at again. If they were captioned they would come up on any search - e.g. someone searching for a particular Showmen's ride would NOT be able to find the photos that are present in an uncaptioned photo set! Perhaps there is an argument for deleting older, uncaptioned photo sets??
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    Personally I feel all photos should have captions, as I feel sometimes it can be sloppy when people just put photos in the topic and for some who may not travel to their areas may not know who owns what, and trawling for a report or trawling through the ride lists to find out owners can be tedious. I always take the time to post captions on all photos I put up, duplicates also, and I'm sure an extra 2-3 minutes per topic shouldn't be too much of an issue. I know one thing that does gripe me is when people put 2-3 photos up then send you to a cluttered or ugly looking website to view the rest, I won't name names as its unfair but I tend to completely ignore those types of topics now. Anyway that's just a ramble. I voted that it should be members choice (2nd choice in vote) but think personally it should be compulsory.
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    As I stated in my post if you caption the one's that are known and put a simple ? under the one's not known someone is bound to fill in the gaps also other members might have in their photo collections photos of the same equipment and they don't know who owns it but by captioning things it helps others out.
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    Well i think all photos should come with captions!! But not everybody knows who owns rides, juveniles, games, transport etc!! Its the enthuiast who wants to go that far to take the time & the trouble to find who owns what!! Not everyone has the time to go that far.. So photos with out a name is better than nothing at least they bothered so then i take my time to find out on this forum who does own what!! So i think its best left upto the members to decide
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    Dear All I mentioned captioning photo topics in a post yesterday, inviting members to add captions to their photo topics as, in my view it was desirable. Since that post, it has been mentioned by other members and I am curious as to your views on the subject. I've added a poll in an effort to get a feeling for this subject. Your comments would be appreciated. All the best Bill
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    I voted for desirable as well . reason being it's always good when looking at posts to see whose the subject matter is. Not everybody knows whose equipment is whose when taking pictures, that's why it would be harsh to say it's compulsory.In the case of projects where the title says what and whose the subject is about, I don't think it's necessary to caption pictures, an example being John Fahy and his Ark.
  13. 5 likes
    On the flip side to your comments about new members if photos were captioned surely it would be a big help to new / young members to identify things easier.
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    I think ' unknown ' or 'ID please' is acceptable , as we know other members will add the owners name in a reply usually.
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    Thank you to each & everyone of you who took the time to wish me a Happy Birthday i hada great day with Jill at mmm where yes the fairgrounds ...
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    Whilst I am grateful for the suggestion, I believe that would be counter productive - we will be deprived of a large number of excellent photo sets just because the poster isn't a forum supporter. Whilst I am keen to ensure the forum supporters cover the costs involved, I don't want to lose any photo contributions. That was very much my thinking. Although neither myself or the forum panel have defined a period yet, I personally was thinking of a much longer period. I will need to do some research to find out at what point photo topics become 'stale' and no longer get viewed - looking at the stats it does happen, but I don't know when. Many thanks for your input.
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    I agree with Waltzerman - better no captions than no photos at all. I hope we're not going to intimidate new members who don't know the showmen, are too shy to ask, haven't got time or don't know the forum well enough to find the names of the owners after the event. They could well be at a fair, which no else has visited or an unusual one, like the Market Deeping one, which Paul Ward and Keith W covered. It would be an awful shame for the forum to lose photos in those instances. I like Steve Barton's suggestion to post photos with question marks as captions. There seem to be plenty of people on here with knowledge which they're willing to share. The question marks would give them the go-ahead with no risk of feeling they're butting in on someone else's topic.
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    The forum is I believe building an archive of the images. If reports were linked to pictures in some way I cannot see how information for a specific picture could be identified & transferred with the picture to the archive other than someone physically adding such information. When I was much more mobile I posted pictures from fairs all over the British Isles while travelling with my job & socially. The amount of travelling did significantly reduce any time I had for posting items on the forum but I can honestly say adding a caption to images took up a negligible amount of that time.
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    Yes understand there must be a fair report, think in future i will use captions when time allows and if not link to a report.
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    A well thought out response - thank you! The reason I posted this topic is that three times since yesterday I've seen photo topics with a reply asking for captions or a fair report and I wondered just how desirable members thought captions were! I also voted for desirable as I do like to see captions. Regarding not knowing what is what, I posted photos from Harpenden with captions, but an unknown lorry. Another member was able to identify it, furthering my knowledge and allowing me to add to the transport list. If I hadn't captioned, I'd never have known. Clearly where the topic title says it all its unnecessary and I accept that. Everybody is entitled to their opinion and I'm keen to hear as many comments as possible. Three members have voted for leave it up to the poster, which I fully accept, but I am a little curious as to why they don't consider it "desirable"?
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    100% agree, which is why I didn't vote for this option, but I'm hoping that this discussion will encourage those who clearly do have the knowledge to take a couple of extra minutes (I don't accept it takes too long) to caption their photos. The ?? idea is good - members don't currently have the ability to edit their photo sets once posted, but I could look into changing this if it would encourage captioning
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    Dear All Following on from the discussion and poll about captioning photo topics in the photos forum, it is clear that members do find captions desirable, but that it shouldn't be compulsory. In an effort to encourage captions, the forum panel have discussed a simple change to the photos forum that we hope will encourage members to caption their photos. Effective immediately all members posting topics in the photos forum will be able to edit their own topics for as long as they are in the photo forum. Perhaps if you are short of time when you post the topic you can consider returning to it when you have spare time and editing the post and adding captions? If you are unsure of the owner you could consider captioning it with a "?", as and when another member identifies the owner you could consider editing your post and updating the caption? Personally I like captions, but if the choice is no captions or no photos, then no captions wins every time Whilst looking at the photos forum, I noticed that there are in excess of 1800 topics over 76 pages going back to 2014. Since we've been keeping every photo topic the forum is becoming somewhat unwieldy. I also noticed the vast majority of views a topic gets are in the first few months. Older topics just don't get viewed very much. However, it is nice to have these older photos as they provide a historic view of past events. The benefit of captioning photo topics becomes, in my view, much more important with older photo sets. Firstly, without captions, the older topics are effectively unsearchable - for example if I search the entire forum for rides belonging to "Philip Green" I will get Rides List Photos and Photo Topics that are captioned - I will miss uncaptioned photo sets, which means we are keeping them just to "browse" and browsing 76 pages is difficult. Secondly I can't just check the Rides List to identify rides from older photo topics because they may have changed hands. Another consideration with the photo forum is "how much do we retain"? All our photos are stored off the forum on an Amazon supplied server. We have unlimited space available, however we pay for EVERY photo we store. The cost, at the moment is fairly negligible, amounting to about $10 a month. This figure will only increase as our archive gets bigger. The number of forum supporters is falling and at some point I will either be unable or unwilling to pay for storage out of my own pocket. To address the above points, I have suggested to the forum panel that we set up the photo forum slightly differently. As time allows I will be setting up yearly "archive" forums for older photo topics, much like the funfair reports. Topics in these forums will be listed alphabetically to aid browsing. As topics get older they will be moved to the relevant yearly archive forum. I will only be moving the "better" photo sets. What constitutes "better" will obviously be subjective, but the following criteria will be taken into account - weather the sets are captioned, duplication of photos, quality of photos etc. As the photos will have been visible in the main photo forum for some time (exact period yet to be determined) all photo sets will be visible for some considerable time before either being moved to the archive or deleted. If anyone has any suggestions as to how we can maintain the usefulness of the photos forum or make it more user friendly, I would be glad to hear them! All the best Bill
  23. 2 likes
    Can I add a further suggestion that posting in the photo forum be reserved for those who contribute to the costs of running & managing the forum. A small price to pay to gain mass exposure of your efforts among the total membership. As this is easily the largest & most popular ATFOTF forum then by definition it must cost the most to maintain. Regarding the archive, it would be pointless archiving captionless images as nothing is included to indicate anything about the subject matter. In the circumstances can I suggest these be removed following posting after a period to be agreed say 6 weeks or 2 months.
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    I do hope it doesn't come down to that. I mean I have noticed a lot of photo topics recently with no slogans on, and I feel it does solidify the idea of making captions compulsory. Adam. Ps: I don't mean for this to come across as a dig at people who don't do captions, its just my opinion I guess.
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    I agree with Adam's viewpoint above. I have to hold my hands up and admit on my Facebook page I tend to slack captioning my photos. I have reviewed my own procedure following some questions of "whose is this" in replies. However both on this forum and on my own main website I always endeavour to caption my photos as good practice. As Adam says it does take no more than an extra 2-3 minutes. I also voted for the middle choice as I feel it should be encouraged.
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    I think making captions compulsory would not be a good idea as it may put some people off posting photos at all, i must admit i don't add captions much now as it takes to long to do, most of the time a member has taken the time to list the ride owners in the reports so is there anyway these could be linked?
  27. 2 likes
    Could I please ask that all members who know about events check if they are listed in the Coming Events file and if they aren't listed please let me know. I'm putting a lot of effort into the list and it's disappointing when the first I know of an event is when a fair report appears! The minimum information I need is DATE, TOWN & COUNTY. The location, post code and lessee/organiser are useful, but not essential. Many thanks to all those who have supported the Coming Events - I think we've been successful so far
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    Happy Birthday Badger. Do a bit of brush twiddling in between the celebration pints. Best wishes, Chunks & Bonnie.
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    Wasn't sure where to put, good price need rescuing imho Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232270902145
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    One thing that is becoming clear from the few members who have bothered to vote in the poll is that the majority of voters so far either aren't bothered one way or the other about captions or don't see the need for them. I just hope now that those members who do add captions don't stop adding them thinking that they are wasting their time.
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    I'm not too bothered about the lack of captions, except when it concerns fairground model shows. I don't get to many and I like to know who these talented model makers are, particularly if they're forum members. The names often get added at the bottom of the topics, but scrolling up and down to put names to models can get really irritating. I dread to think what it's like if you're viewing on a smartphone. I've often wondered if it's possible to open up a topic temporarily to allow the original poster to add the names in the right place.
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    Happy Birthday Mike. Sorry, nearly missed it. Hope it's been a good day. Best wishes, Chunks & Bonnie.
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    Thanks guys.i can remember when I was a teenager being with B.Traylen at Hampton Court for Easter on my birthday.
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    Happy birthday, hope you have a great day
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    Happy Birthday, Regards Wayne.
  37. 1 like
    Dear All You may remember my previous attempt at making a Rides List Database available to forum members - It wasn't successful and was withdrawn. However, I kept the data and now have it available in an Excel Spreadsheet. It has taken me a couple of weeks to reconcile it against the Forum Rides list, and whilst it isn't perfect, I think it is now at a stage where I can share it. Why do we need two list? The Forum Rides List is important as it allows the storage of photos and allows members to reply to update and correct information. However, the searching, sorting and filtering of rides is very limited due to the constraints of the Forum Software. The Excel Spreadsheet allows advanced searching, sorting and filtering so allows members to find the information they want much more easily. The instructions for using the Coming Events file will give you an idea of how to use the Rides List. (Please see http://www.fun-fairs.co.uk/help-faq/forumsoftware/using-coming-events/) (YouTube also has some excellent tutorials on using Excel) For example: Suppose you wanted to find out the year of manufacture of the earliest travelling Galloper's? Using the forum would require you to open every Galloper topic to check the date. Using the Excel Spreadsheet simple Filter "Ride" to Gallopers, "Status" to Travelling and then sort by "Year" (The answer is 1880!) Want to know all new rides for 2016? Simply filter "Year" to 2016 The possibilities are endless. You can also download the file if you wish to keep it offline or to use your own software (Many programs and apps available) Before accessing the file, please note the following: There will be errors. Although I have been as diligent as I can the spreadsheet is very large (16 columns, 3215 rows - over 51 thousand individual cells with info in!) I still have a lot of tidying/checking to do - this will be an on-going process There is a lot of information on the screen, a desktop computer with a large monitor is highly recommended. Although the spreadsheet should be accessible on mobile devices, I don't recommend it and unfortunately cannot offer support for mobile devices Although I have tested the spreadsheet, no one else has. There may well be teething problems - let me know and I will do my best to sort the issues By accessing the file you agree: Not to share the data or the link To inform me if you find any errors or omissions The file is available on the "More" menu at the top of the forum. The file is READ ONLY - You will be unable to alter the contents of any cell. If anything requires correcting/updating, please let me know by Personal Message or Email. As the file is READ ONLY, you CANNOT damage it - feel free to play. If you are unable to get the spreadsheet back to it's original state, simply close the tab it is open in and reopen it. All the best Bill
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    Work on the Coming Events list is progressing well. There are 23 current events listed and 146 events listed in total. If you are aware of ANY event not listed, or can add any detail to any event already listed, please LET ME KNOW! - PM, post in the Coming Events Forum, reply here, email (comingevents@fun-fairs.co.uk) - whatever, as long as I get the info
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    Dear All I understand that we all like to be appreciated and it's nice if we contribute to the forum with information or photos and we get positive feedback. It is also frustrating to revisit a topic to view a new post only to find that it doesn't actually add to the topic and just says "thanks" or "good pics". The "Like/Thanks" button is perfectly adequate to show your appreciation, it also adds to the reputation of the poster and when a topic is liked sufficiently it shows as "Popular". Forum rules state: 14 ) The posting of 'non-contributory' replies is discouraged. This is any post that does not further or help the topic. Please click "Like/Thanks" if you just want to say "Thank you" - it increases the like count of the member without clogging up the thread with short, meaningless replies. What is particularly frustrating from my point of view is when a member replies with "Thanks" but DOESN'T click "Like / Thanks" button It would be appreciated if you could bear the above in mind when replying. Many thanks Bill
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