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  1. 13 points
    I am very grateful to those of you who have supported this change. I confess that the episode has been an eye opener for me. The Rides List is, in my opinion a unique (at least online), comprehensive, up to date, extremely well illustrated resource and a credit to all those members who have contributed to its success. The forum isn't run by a company, there are no share holders, there is no profit, what is donated covers the hosting and storage. Many, many months I've covered the short fall from my own pocket. Some months I'm up, most months I'm down and over the life of the forum I'm considerably out of pocket. Our lowest donation for access to the Rides list is £5 a year. That's under 10 pence per week. Compared to a magazine subscription, a go on a fairground ride, a pint or a cigarette it cannot be seen as expensive and certainly not "unfair" as has been said. The sole reason for the change was to ensure the future of the forum, so it was decided by the forum panel to charge for access to just this one part of the forum. And just in case anyone couldn't afford the fiver, but had contributed content, we added access to those who ask - with the specific object of being fair! Quite how a member to claim it is unfair that they can't access a feature they don't support financially and haven't contributed to I fail to see and so far no one has been willing to say how it is unfair. In the past it's been suggested that the process to donate was too difficult. I've simplified it - anyone who can post on the forum and operate our postal system can donate, so I don't belive that is still an issue. I don't believe that we've got the policy wrong, but as mentioned above, if there is an aspect we haven't considered, something you want us to consider then please let me or a forum panel member know and we will reconsider. Saying it is unfair without backing it up is pointless! Well said!
  2. 13 points
    How sad that only 120 Members out of a possible 4868 contribute financially People are still trying to wiggle out of PAYING a measly £5 a yr. Very Sad.
  3. 12 points
    Its not a case of rules will be rules...."Its a case of supporting the forum to help with the costs of running the forum" Members don't have to pay anything but members are encouraged to help from as little as £5 a year!!!!! You have members that pay nothing & don't add reports, photos, etc the list goes on so WHY should they have full access
  4. 9 points
    Yet they are the first to cry foul when things are put in place to try and secure the forums future.
  5. 8 points
    All The Fun Of The Fair is primarily a message forum. However, over the years it has grown into so much more. We have A Rides List with details and photos of over 3500 UK Rides, A Transport List, Funfair Reports Archive and loads more. As far as I am aware, the information we provide is unique online. Providing adequate hosting and storage requires funding which I am unable to finance solely on my own. Fortunately Forum Supporter donations are currently covering our costs - however this assumes that our hosting/storage bill doesn't go any higher and supporter numbers don't drop. Forum Supporters have been discussed in the forum recently and this has had a positive effect and numbers are up - we are secure, for the time being at least. I don't however want to be complacent and I've been discussing with the Forum Panel various methods of encouraging donations. One suggestion was to look at the benefits of donation (apart from the obvious one of keeping this unique resource available!). And I have now enhanced the benefits available to forum supporters (please see http://www.fun-fairs.co.uk/supporter-benefits/ for details) Also discussed was making the Forum "Member Only", that is only accessible to those who do contribute financially. For various reasons, I don't want to implement this. However, if push comes to shove and the level of donations drops below our hosting and storage bills I WILL reconsider this option. Another option discussed was restricting access to our biggest and most used feature - The Rides List - to paid subscriber only. I can see merit in this idea, but I still have reservations, primarily that the list was compiled and the information and photos supplied by a mixture of supporters and non-supporters and to exclude those who contributed to its success would be grossly unfair. I believe that it is important to balance who has access to the Rides List with those who have contributed to make it the success it is. I hope that I have achieved this with the following change in policy. Having considered all the advantages and disadvantages I have decided that access to the Rides List will eventually be restricted to Forum Supporters only, but this won't be done until it is necessary. I believe that by phasing in this restriction it will be fairer and I won't have to restrict access anymore than is necessary to achieve our aims. Phase 1 - Has been completed. All new members to the forum will have unlimited access to all of the site except the Rides List - if they wish to access this additional feature they will need to support the forum financially (and with our lowest donation of just 10p a week it can hardly be described as expensive!) Phase 2 - Is proving more difficult than I anticipated. If a member doesn't financially support the forum and has never contributed with content (that is has never posted) they will not be able to access the Rides List. I had a plugin to identify and move these members automatically, but it was unreliable, moving members who didn't fit the criteria. This is now a manual process and will take some time to complete. Phase 3 - On 1st January 2018, the Rides List will further be restricted to the following: Forum Supporters Members who have contributed to the Rides List Members who submit Funfair Reports The software is able to automatically give Supporters Rides List access, so there is no work to do on this aspect. However, there is no way for the software to identify Rides List or Funfair Report contributors, so these members will have to be given access to the Rides List Manually. If you are NOT a Forum Supporter, but have contributed to the Rides List or have submitted Funfair Reports I will have to manually give you access to the Rides List. Please drop me, @Bill Edwards or @Jamie Peters a PM indicating which Rides List Entry or Funfair Report you have contributed to and we will do the rest. I've announced this now so that I have time to allow all those members who should have access to be able to access the list when it's restricted in just over two months time. I hope that you understand why this change of policy has been thought necessary and hope that you feel as I do and the Forum Panel does, that by restricting access to Forum Supporters and Contributor's to The Rides List and Funfair reports that the policy is being implemented fairly. Many thanks for your continued support. Bill
  6. 8 points
    There is every point! This has been extensively discussed by the Forum Panel to ensure that it is as fair as possible. If you have another point of view, perhaps something we haven't considered/discussed then the decision can and will be looked at again.
  7. 6 points
    I would like to wish every one a merry Christmas and a happy new year
  8. 6 points
    Same to you Aidan and same every one on the forum hope you all have a good one. Also thanks to every one of you who makes the forum what it is. most importantly thanks to Bill and the team. Ben
  9. 5 points
    As a Forum Panel Member i fully support what we have introduced its was purely to ensure the continuing success of the Forum, it was not introduced lightly we discussed it at great length and i believe we came to the right conclusion for the long term benefit of the Forum We may not own the info you refer to but a lot of hard work goes on behind the Scenes to maintain / check / update them I don't believe for one minute you can find ride listing as comprehensive any were else, the NFA no longer have them on there pages and were removed as they were becoming out of date & as for the info on Face Book you can gain some good info from there, but most of it is total rubbish with Hundred's of so called expert eagar to provide info from a Good Source As for your remark "slightly fraudulent to me" the word Slightly is not get out, in fact its a low blow and offensive I cant speak for the other members of staff but a lot of work goes on behind the scenes that the general membership does not see but do benefit from
  10. 5 points
    Yes but they pay (over 1000 members each organization) £15 to both the Fairground Socitey & FAGB at a drop of a hat Don't get me wrong these are good organizations but for value of Money £5 per year to ATFOTF is nothing so as far as i'm concerned if you want the ride listing PAY UP!! or _ _ _ _ _ _
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  12. 4 points
    Gary, as Bill says above the process to give existing members access to the rides list isn't automatic, its manual, so if you didn't PM myself or Bill to get access you would have lost the ability to view the lists yesterday, along with any other contributors who didn't request access. I will update your profile now to give you access to the lists. If there are any other members who haven't requested access please message myself or Bill and we can sort it out for you
  13. 3 points
    At the time they deleted them, i had the ark and waltzer list which Bill copied, the lists are still on the web archive. waltzer and ark list is here... other lists are here.....
  14. 3 points
    wanted to buy noahs ark any condition as long as complete. ideally something restored would consider renting something for the 2018 season. telephone john holland 07860 350182
  15. 3 points
    I have been asked by a fellow collector to advertise these 2 fully restored Anderson Juvenile horses on his behalf. I do not wish to be party to any discussions re these horses as I am just posting the ad for the vendor in case anyone maybe interested. All enquires must be made directly to John Barker (Beaconsfield) on 01494 675986. They are both by Anderson of Bristol, 1890 - 1900, and both measure 41 inches hoof to hoof and 30 inches hoof to top of ear. I understand they both come with photos showing their restoration and are priced at £2,000 each, cash on collection. The photos below highlight their condition which I can vouch for, having recently seen them. Once again, all enquiries direct to John Barker please on 01494 675986 as I am in no way involved in any transaction.
  16. 3 points
    Me nd my Mrs also wish everyone on this GREAT FORUM all the best for Xmas and a happy New year. Adie
  17. 2 points
    Please would you be so kind as to explain why it's unfair?
  18. 2 points
    The rides list is a big part of All the fun of the fair.Now its all the fun of being unfair.
  19. 2 points
    thanks Eddie, looked on ebay nothing there, never used Amazon before but order placed now thanks
  20. 2 points
    Four copies available on Amazon prices ranging from £27.75 - £30 www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/0951383523/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1514535397&sr=8-1&keywords=Circular+steam+switchback
  21. 2 points
    For sale flying clown SBF/ VISA ride is on drawbar trailer 1 transport no paybox, stairs, fences can be seen open untill 1st week of january for more info please call or whatsapp 0031683844444 the ride is in Holland
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  25. 2 points
    David Guyatts back on the grounds looking after his Dodgems, visited Acton this hallowe'en and he was minding. Had a nice chat with him.
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