Panel Member The Team Posted May 1, 2018 Group: Panel Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 53 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 26 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 782 Achievement Points: 26 Days Won: 2 Joined: 29/04/18 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 8 Panel Member Share Posted May 1, 2018 Your new ‘Team’ have discussed in depth the current membership and three tier Forum Supporter packages and advise the following changes with immediate effect. All new members will be required to register using their own real name and pay an annual subscription of £10. There will be a 48 hour cancellation period where a full refund will be offered. The package will include admittance to all forums and an allowance of 20 Personal Messages per day with a storage capacity of 100 Messages. The current three tier Supporter renewal packages will, in future, be replaced by the single package as detailed above. In addition the user name must be the users real name. With effect from 1st May 2019 all current members who have not yet bought a Supporter package will be denied access to all forums unless they upgrade to the package detailed above. The new package can be purchased at any time and will include access to the Rides Lists. Members currently not using their own real name can voluntarily update at any time by sending an e-mail to admin@fun-fairs.co.uk. E&OE 6 1 2 2 Link to comment
Panel Member The Team Posted May 2, 2018 Group: Panel Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 53 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 26 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 782 Achievement Points: 26 Days Won: 2 Joined: 29/04/18 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 8 Author Panel Member Share Posted May 2, 2018 Registration has now been reopened, new registrations must purchase a subscription or they will not be able to complete the registration. Any existing members can upgrade their account at any time by visiting http://www.fun-fairs.co.uk/store Link to comment
Adam Brown Posted May 2, 2018 Group: Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 169 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 795 Achievement Points: 183 Days Won: 4 Joined: 21/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: 16 hours ago Share Posted May 2, 2018 As a part of the changes, will you be publishing annual accounts? If the membership fee is doubling and free entry is to be restricted, I would like to see an account of where the money goes or is intended to go. No insinuation of anything untoward is intended, but all other groups requesting money for membership that I am part of provide this information. 7 1 Link to comment
Martin Burridge Posted May 2, 2018 Group: Supporter Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 190 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 367 Achievement Points: 207 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/12/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 13:58 Birthday: 11/08/1952 Share Posted May 2, 2018 What method can you pay this subscription each year especially for those who don't use paypal or online banking facilities. Can you pay by cheque or postal order. Link to comment
Panel Member The Team Posted May 2, 2018 Group: Panel Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 53 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 26 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 782 Achievement Points: 26 Days Won: 2 Joined: 29/04/18 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 8 Author Panel Member Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Martin Burridge said: What method can you pay this subscription each year especially for those who don't use paypal or online banking facilities. Can you pay by cheque or postal order. Yes, those options are available Link to comment
Graham Haynes Posted May 2, 2018 Group: Supporter Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 40 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 46 Achievement Points: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 22/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 17:18 Birthday: 22/09/1976 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Where do you send a cheque too as have no ideal how to pay online that's why have not done a subscription yet. Link to comment
Panel Member The Team Posted May 2, 2018 Group: Panel Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 53 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 26 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 782 Achievement Points: 26 Days Won: 2 Joined: 29/04/18 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 8 Author Panel Member Share Posted May 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Graham Haynes said: Where do you send a cheque too as have no ideal how to pay online that's why have not done a subscription yet. PM sent with details Link to comment
Panel Member The Team Posted May 2, 2018 Group: Panel Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 53 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 26 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 782 Achievement Points: 26 Days Won: 2 Joined: 29/04/18 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 8 Author Panel Member Share Posted May 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Adam Brown said: As a part of the changes, will you be publishing annual accounts? If the membership fee is doubling and free entry is to be restricted, I would like to see an account of where the money goes or is intended to go. No insinuation of anything untoward is intended, but all other groups requesting money for membership that I am part of provide this information. We can confirm that this issue is certainly on the agenda of the Team - of course,if and when they are published , you will have to be a member to view them. Link to comment
Adam Brown Posted May 2, 2018 Group: Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 169 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 795 Achievement Points: 183 Days Won: 4 Joined: 21/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: 16 hours ago Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, The Team said: We can confirm that this issue is certainly on the agenda of the Team - of course,if and when they are published , you will have to be a member to view them. I understand I'll need to be paid up to view them, and I also understand that this is a very new and fresh thing. Hopefully nearer the deadline there will be a firmer answer and I can decide with full information if I want to sign up. Link to comment
Jonathan Oakman Posted May 2, 2018 Group: Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 307 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 570 Achievement Points: 338 Days Won: 3 Joined: 22/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 19:34 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1. im happy to pay £10 ,but is this for every year with old members like the new members 2. once i paid for a year will old members get full access to rides list Link to comment
Panel Member The Team Posted May 2, 2018 Group: Panel Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 53 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 26 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 782 Achievement Points: 26 Days Won: 2 Joined: 29/04/18 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 8 Author Panel Member Share Posted May 2, 2018 The subscription is £10 per a year, and once a paid member (Whether you do that now, or when its compulsory in a year) you will be able to view the rides list. The only ones who can't are non paying members, who come 1st May 2019 won't be able to access the forum anyway. 1 1 Link to comment
J.Buchwald Posted May 2, 2018 Group: Supporter Followers: 0 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 400 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 517 Achievement Points: 409 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/09/02 Status: Offline Last Seen: 10 hours ago Birthday: 25/03/1958 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I have now become a forum supporter and am gratefully for the TEAM now running this site for keeping this fantastic site open now Bill has stepped down.I hope this site runs for another 20years.Thanks Adie 5 2 Link to comment
twister guy Posted May 2, 2018 Group: Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 52 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 274 Achievement Points: 52 Days Won: 2 Joined: 30/07/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 17:04 Share Posted May 2, 2018 This is a Good Forum i like to come on before bed to look at the great photos people put on but i think 10 Pound is a bit dear i used be on a Dance Music Forum but the people who made it started asking for money and they had to shut down coz people couldent afford it Sorry to moan but i just wanted share my experience because it's a good site and it would be shame if it closed Maybe if u just keep the Rides List to Supporters but keep rest of the forum free it would be better coz i think people will stop coming on if they have to pay 3 1 Link to comment
Martin Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Supporter Followers: 6 Topic Count: 168 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,913 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 4,844 Achievement Points: 1,947 Days Won: 6 Joined: 13/09/02 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) I would like to question why has everyone have to pay £10 from next year? I considered the option of £5, £10 & £15 was more flexible. Edited May 3, 2018 by Martin 1 Link to comment
Panel Member The Team Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Panel Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 53 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 26 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 782 Achievement Points: 26 Days Won: 2 Joined: 29/04/18 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 8 Author Panel Member Share Posted May 3, 2018 31 minutes ago, Martin said: I would like to question why has everyone have to pay £10 from next year? After much discussion among the team, it has been decided that from May next year,the Forum is to become subscription only, at what we feel is a very fair cost of £10.00 per annum. This decision has been taken in order to secure the financial future of the Forum, and please remember, that when you choose to subscribe, you will have access to the entire Forum, including the unique "Rides List" section. 1 1 Link to comment
Ormester101 Posted May 3, 2018 Group: No Longer A Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 630 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 1,242 Achievement Points: 630 Days Won: 1 Joined: 18/02/04 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 23, 2018 Birthday: 19/12/1977 Share Posted May 3, 2018 sorry but for what you get 10 pound is too much youll kill a forum i understand it costs money to run but as martin says 5 pound is more than adequete. 3 Link to comment
Panel Member The Team Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Panel Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 53 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 26 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 782 Achievement Points: 26 Days Won: 2 Joined: 29/04/18 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 8 Author Panel Member Share Posted May 3, 2018 Unfortunately it was either £10 a year from members or no forum for anyone, we went for the only option that would allow the forum to survive. 1 Link to comment
Adam Brown Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 169 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 795 Achievement Points: 183 Days Won: 4 Joined: 21/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: 16 hours ago Share Posted May 3, 2018 An explanation of the running costs may help justification of the £10 charge..... 4 1 Link to comment
Ormester101 Posted May 3, 2018 Group: No Longer A Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 630 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 1,242 Achievement Points: 630 Days Won: 1 Joined: 18/02/04 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 23, 2018 Birthday: 19/12/1977 Share Posted May 3, 2018 38 minutes ago, The Team said: Unfortunately it was either £10 a year from members or no forum for anyone, we went for the only option that would allow the forum to survive. beforeeee people are prepared to pay I think a full breakdown in cost is needed and a incentive where as a badge etc t shirt . 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Steve Barton Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Root Admin Followers: 1 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,230 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 19,563 Achievement Points: 5,342 Days Won: 128 Joined: 11/01/03 Status: Offline Last Seen: 42 minutes ago Birthday: 10/12/1961 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Ormester101 said: sorry but for what you get 10 pound is too much youll kill a forum i understand it costs money to run but as martin says 5 pound is more than adequete. You say that £5 is more than adequate yet we have had a £5 option for a while now and still many Members chose not to pay that yourself included. Maybe if more Members had taken up the £5 option when it was available we might not be doing what we are doing now. If it wasn't for what Bill and the Forum Supporters have done over the years to fund this Forum we wouldn't be having this discussion today as the Forum would of closed a long time ago. This is my point of view as a long time Member & Supporter . 10 1 1 Link to comment
Alan Colyer Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Supporter Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 331 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 1,146 Achievement Points: 331 Days Won: 8 Joined: 09/06/14 Status: Online Last Seen: 3 minutes ago Share Posted May 3, 2018 Very well said we had the option some still didn’t take to it so now it comes to this !! 4 1 Link to comment
Adam Brown Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 169 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 795 Achievement Points: 183 Days Won: 4 Joined: 21/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: 16 hours ago Share Posted May 3, 2018 The question being asked by reasonable heads here is just to give us an idea of the costs, what our contribution will do etc. I think we all agree we want the forum to continue and to be viable. It is after all in a way run by its own members, not democratically but that isn't a huge issue if it works and everyone is happy. The announcement of a charge without any in depth background is difficult to swallow. I'll hold my hands up - I haven't paid. I previously didn't wish to as my general interest is casual. I'm leaning towards not paying next year and leaving as I'm not sure it is worth a payment to pop in and out as and when I wish, my main interest is the vintage stuff and there isn't a lot of it on here. The charge may end up being counter productice and drive people away. I'm sure that has been weighed up and I don't envy 'The Team' for having to make that choice. Transparency is going to be key to making this work, if it becomes 'our way or bye bye' then I don't see a long term future for the forum. 3 2 Link to comment
Peter van der Knaap Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 242 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1,868 Achievement Points: 242 Days Won: 16 Joined: 25/02/18 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 19, 2018 Birthday: 30/04/1965 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Personally, if one asks for money, one has to open the books. Who is the beneficiary. How is the money spend. How are profits (or losses) handled. If you don't, than you are running the risk that you will not convince people to pay. Also, I'm convinced that a lot of people will leave this forum, because they are "passing" persons only and not people who come and look here on a regular base... 3 1 Link to comment
Bill Edwards Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Root Admin Followers: 7 Topic Count: 2,396 Topics Per Day: 0.31 Content Count: 6,961 Content Per Day: 0.89 Reputation: 2,470 Achievement Points: 7,182 Days Won: 10 Joined: 12/09/02 Status: Offline Last Seen: 18 minutes ago Birthday: 08/02/1963 Share Posted May 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, Peter van der Knaap said: Personally, if one asks for money, one has to open the books. Who is the beneficiary. How is the money spend. How are profits (or losses) handled. If you don't, than you are running the risk that you will not convince people to pay. Also, I'm convinced that a lot of people will leave this forum, because they are "passing" persons only and not people who come and look here on a regular base... I think you've made your point - several times, perhaps it's time to give the new team time to find their feet 😖 Link to comment
Popular Post Jay Foulkes Posted May 3, 2018 Group: Supporter Followers: 0 Topic Count: 90 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 338 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 889 Achievement Points: 413 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/07/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: 7 hours ago Birthday: 16/05/1991 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2018 I personally think £10 is more than justified. I'm 27, and working on minimum wage, but I'm more than happy to put aside a tenner for a year's subscription to this amazing resource. The 'idea' that there are dedicated enthusiasts on here trying to con people out of money slightly boils my blood. Fortunately that isn't happening, and books simply need balancing to support the site. Rant over 😐 9 2 Link to comment
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